Is ‘Socialism’ really a dirty word?

This morning a friend posted a really interesting debate topic over on Fb & a few of us joined in the discussion & were having fun with the subject & stretching our little brain cells quite happily in a very conceptual & broad sense as the topic was potentially emotive.


The NHS came into the debate for various pertinent reasons, but then things got a little skewed as the word socialism was mentioned by yours truly.

I saw no issue with my words as the NHS is a socialist concept & has it’s roots in British Socialism at it’s best. It’s an amazing creation & when allowed to run as it should it works very well. In fact, it still manages to work mostly well even with said inappropriate influences & that’s rather miraculous, no?


I got to thinking about this. I don’t understand why anyone would or could be scared of thinking of being a part of something greater than themselves. We all are after all. Nor can I understand why the vast majority of people would have a problem with giving all that they can to their community, society, nation & taking back only that which they actually need. There’s also the fact that if every citizen & worker understands a) that they have a place in society & b) an obligation to fullfill the duties of that place or role to the best of their abilities in return for fair treatment & renumeration people actually try harder. I’ve seen this in action & the understanding of this causes people to be naturally more egalitarian towards each other & less resentful of others in different situations.


I’m not saying that it makes life perfect. Nothing will ever do that, but if the thing makes it better for ALL of us, how can anyone be scared of it?


I worked for a national industry before it was chopped up, sold off & privatised & the standards that everyone had to work to were so high. Many of the things that get reported as happening in the workplace now just didn’t ever happen. It wasn’t allowed. The standard was ‘here’ & you met it or you found another job. We weren’t spoilt or molly coddled, but we knew we were valued & cared for by our colleagues & managers & our managers had extremely strict guidelines that HAD to be followed. There was no ‘we are learning’ or getting away with it if you did wrong & if you tried to lie or worm your way out of something you’d done wrong, you got worse punishment than if you admitted your mistake & promised to do better next time. This had the effect of keeping people honest & upstanding & nobody ever thought that they were any better than anyone else as we all respected the necessity of each role within the company from the lowliest cleaners up to the managing directors.

Our Directors knew that if the cleaners stopped doing their work nobody else would be able to do theirs as we’d all be up to our necks in rubbish & therefore unable to complete our tasks. Our cleaners were well loved & appreciated due to this philosophy. They weren’t venerated, but neither were the managers as they knew their limitations & humanity & not one ever thought they could do as they pleased.

I wonder if those who have been taught to fear Socialism actually know what it is & how it functions on a day to day basis?

After having read recently about how badly skewed the distribution of wealth has become in the US, I have to ask is it possible that those proporting the correctness of fearing socialism are those who would least benefit from it (in their minds) & who are currently robbing their fellow countrymen & women blind with their belief in their own ‘divine right’ to take so much money from others whether they be in a corporation or government?

It’s just a question & I’m just asking

By Boutoo

3 comments on “Is ‘Socialism’ really a dirty word?

  1. Well done. Socialism is nothing more than the idea that, if you’re willing to work, you shouldn’t have to be poor. That’s it. Wish that we ‘Merkins could catch on to the truth of that simple idea. We’re up to our eyeballs in impoverished people, the vast majority of whom work full-time. And yet any kind of public benefit program is vilified, as if it principally served the able but unwilling. It’s a lie hatched by those who profit from privatization, and spoon-fed to the masses through the media until even the poor believe it.

    GImme a clean, honest revolution, man. Jeezus.

  2. Ooooooooooooo the revolution will not be televised 😀

    Thanks Alan 🙂 You know I genuinely adore you & many other ‘merikanz & I read about your lives & the things that you all do ‘collectively’ as well as within your families & with friends & the thing that has always struck me as strange is how very ‘socialistic’ you are as a ‘people’. You all go off & have picnics with your neighbours & work colleagues & other similar activities that have socialism at their very heart. Yet it’s not recognised as that.

    Yes, socialism is about not ever needing to be poor if you’re ready, willing & able to contribute, but it’s also about taking care of each other at those times in life when a person might not be able to contribute in the traditional way. An unsupported lone parent can’t reasonably be expected to hold down a full time job as well as bring up their children, but socialism recognises that bringing up the next generation & doing it well IS a contribution & if said lone parent can do some voluntary work at a school or for a local community or charitable project then that is also a contribution & worthy of recognition & remuneration via state benefits (that’s how it was set up here). If a person is too sick to work for a period of time, that doesn’t make them a leech or burden upon society & to see them in that light negates all the time they HAVE spent making a contribution in whatever way they did when they weren’t sick.

    Our health system was set up to ensure that people could pay for their health care in a fair way at those times when they’re best able to contribute so that they wouldn’t have to suffer hardship at those times when they’re least able i.e. when they’re sick. So we pay an extra 9% (14% if state pension is included) tax called national insurance out of salaries that pays for the NHS. Employers & government also make their contribution & we pay for extras & for our prescription drugs whilst we’re working. There is no ‘free’ with the NHS & never has been.

    I mention the NHS specifically as a Brazilian friend of mine calls it the greatest testament to Socialism on the planet. It shows how it can work & work well if it’s correctly understood. I think that’s why we’re so proud of it & why we love it so much & will fight to the death to keep it (read current UK newsfeeds to see what’s going on).

    Thank you again Voo darling xx

  3. Reasonable…the Americans use “Socialised Medicine” as a Newspeak perjorative term since many off them prefer/have vested interests in the insurance-based scheme.
    Some form of socialism is essential, since people cannot survive in isolation.survive in isolation. Personally I would be in favour of most essential public services being state run.
    The trouble with any kind of system is that it cannot legislate for human weakness, greed and evil. The communist system seemed fine in theory, but produced some of the most repressive and brutal governments ever.

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